All Blacks have a big loss $15.9m

[wanttobe]

A post about nothing, was bored
New Zealand Rugby Union unveils $15.9m loss.
NZRU say it was because of the global recession which is rubbish. The recession wasnt here in 2005
So and is Graham Henry part to blame? i say yes. He took over the ABs in 2004 then did the rotation crap etc and since then its gone down hill big time.
But when ever they cock up its never the 3 wise mens fault
Look at the line since Henry has been in charged. Sure he has a great test record, but hasnt done much for the game in NZ. played approx 77 tests won 67 loss 10. Out of those 77 tests 41 of them were agianst the best sides in the world & 29 were against the 2nd grade when even a 2nd division could bet.

[the_tank]

Thats why i said no when he asked me to play.Knew he had no money

[KGranger]

I couldnt believe it when I heard this, it's huge! I'd blame the amount of rugby played in the country now, the cost of going to the event, and the advancements in technology. Sitting in a warm lounge a large TV and surround sound and not paying $6 a beer usually wins out.

[kwozy]

hey guys i put it down to one thing aswell they got to stop failing at the world cups like they have done in the last two cups its been disapionting to watch bout time the coach got the boot like the others do when they fail

[brad816]

The weird thing is that all black games in nz are normally sold out im pretty sure the chart takes in air new zealand cup and super14 not just the all blacks and surely they are paying more money now than in 2004 to keep players from going overseas. I think the air new zealand cup has had pretty crap crowds (except the smaller unions) since it was made 14 teams and the nz teams in the super 14 (except the damn crusaders who dont get support until the final anyway ) aren't doing themselves any favours at the moe either gotta win to fill seats.

[Cricketfan]

A post about nothing, was bored
New Zealand Rugby Union unveils $15.9m loss.
NZRU say it was because of the global recession which is rubbish. The recession wasnt here in 2005
So and is Graham Henry part to blame? i say yes. He took over the ABs in 2004 then did the rotation crap etc and since then its gone down hill big time.
But when ever they cock up its never the 3 wise mens fault
Look at the line since Henry has been in charged. Sure he has a great test record, but hasnt done much for the game in NZ. played approx 77 tests won 67 loss 10. Out of those 77 tests 41 of them were agianst the best sides in the world & 29 were against the 2nd grade when even a 2nd division could bet.

You're trying to say that if we had a different coach, for example Robbie Deans or Warren Gatland, that the NZRU wouldn't have posted such a large loss? I don't really know about that.

You also have to consider who the on-field losses came against - South Africa, in my view, have been the best team in the world for the last three years and we've currently dropped three tests in a row against them, plus one in 2008 in Dunedin and a Matfield/du Preez/Habana-led Barbarians team at the end of the year. I think the record of the team under Henry is great if you take out SA. In saying all of that I did believe Henry, Hanson and Smith would be surplus to requirements after 2007 but I think the outlook should be on 2011 not looking back at a (in)correct decision to retain them.

Put simply I don't think your logic is correct that the coaching panel is the reason to blame for the massive loss.

[wanttobe]

Put simply I don't think your logic is correct that the coaching panel is the reason to blame for the massive loss.

I said Graham Henry part to blame. He did that reconditioning thing in the super12 which stuff up the whole comp, rebel sport just about pulled the pin on the sponsorship over it. Because he left out the ABs, they lost big $$$ over the gate takings. And if the coaching staff & NZRU nubs cant take some blame from it, well ....
NZRU gave Henry a open Chq book when he took over for the world cup, which cost a arm and leg and what happen?

But this is my personal opinion as i dont know whats in those books

[Cricketfan]

Put simply I don't think your logic is correct that the coaching panel is the reason to blame for the massive loss.

I said Graham Henry part to blame. He did that reconditioning thing in the super12 which stuff up the whole comp, rebel sport just about pulled the pin on the sponsorship over it. Because he left out the ABs, they lost big $$$ over the gate takings. And if the coaching staff & NZRU nubs cant take some blame from it, well ....
NZRU gave Henry a open Chq book when he took over for the world cup, which cost a arm and leg and what happen?

But this is my personal opinion as i dont know whats in those books

Why is that relevant for the last financial year though? The withdrawing of players from Super14 was 2007.

[MENTL1_CHB]

Its all the turbos fault if they got kicked out the nzru be sweet

[the_tank]

Bring back the Buck

[wanttobe]

Put simply I don't think your logic is correct that the coaching panel is the reason to blame for the massive loss.

I said Graham Henry part to blame. He did that reconditioning thing in the super12 which stuff up the whole comp, rebel sport just about pulled the pin on the sponsorship over it. Because he left out the ABs, they lost big $$$ over the gate takings. And if the coaching staff & NZRU nubs cant take some blame from it, well ....
NZRU gave Henry a open Chq book when he took over for the world cup, which cost a arm and leg and what happen?

But this is my personal opinion as i dont know whats in those books

Why is that relevant for the last financial year though? The withdrawing of players from Super14 was 2007.

For get it CF, im not going to answer this. It was meant to be a post about nothing not a post to argue on.

[wanttobe]

The weird thing is that all black games in nz are normally sold out im pretty sure the chart takes in air new zealand cup and super14 not just the all blacks and surely they are paying more money now than in 2004 to keep players from going overseas. I think the air new zealand cup has had pretty crap crowds (except the smaller unions) since it was made 14 teams and the nz teams in the super 14 (except the damn crusaders who dont get support until the final anyway ) aren't doing themselves any favours at the moe either gotta win to fill seats.

Your prob right there Brad but on TV i think it all was about the ABs losing $$$$$$$$$$$ They lost huge money over in hong kong etc

[Cricketfan]

For get it CF, im not going to answer this. It was meant to be a post about nothing not a post to argue on.

So...you put up a post in a discussion forum and then didn't want any discussion about it? ITSTL...

[KSR Aaza]

Doesn't the NZRU not only cover the All Blacks but also the Air New Zealand Cup and the other divisions below it? In which case, with the revamp to the competition, drop in spectator numbers, and constant stories of chopping teams, isn't that having just a bit of a effect on the $15.9m loss?

[wanttobe]

Doesn't the NZRU not only cover the All Blacks but also the Air New Zealand Cup and the other divisions below it? In which case, with the revamp to the competition, drop in spectator numbers, and constant stories of chopping teams, isn't that having just a bit of a effect on the $15.9m loss?

Yep im sure your right aaza, but it sounded to me they( the media) was blaming the ABs because i dont think they even mention the Air NZ cup

[BRI Mediadog]

The medias fault hehe....cheers wants

I think youd find if they didnt get such a big handout from the government they might be a biy more business orientated if they had to raise all their funds themselves.

I also agree with an earlier comment about too much rugby.

Had to cover the Chiefs/Cheetahs at work last night, and the stands were practically empty.....that must be a sure sign that what they are doing isnt working, although Im assuming the Chiefs form this season also has something to do with it, still winless at home.

So Super 15 next year......hmmm I honestly doubt this will do bugger all for the game apart from in Melbourne now

[Cricketfan]

Had to cover the Chiefs/Cheetahs at work last night, and the stands were practically empty.....that must be a sure sign that what they are doing isnt working, although Im assuming the Chiefs form this season also has something to do with it, still winless at home.

By home I assume you mean at Waikato Stadium since they did win a home game at Bay Park against the Highlanders.

[BRI Mediadog]

Yes home for the Chiefs is Waikato Stadium

[brad816]

Yes home for the Chiefs is Waikato Stadium

331 days and counting since last win at waikato stdium for the chiefs

[BRI Mediadog]

Damn didnt realise it was that long.

I think Donald might have a tough ride ahead if he hopes to make the All Blacks....shocking display of kicking on Friday night.

[brad816]

Make that 337 days there last win at waikato stadium was may 22nd 2009 in the semi final against the hurricanes

[wanttobe]

Make that 337 days there last win at waikato stadium was may 22nd 2009 in the semi final against the hurricanes

Shot Brad

[Tyrone]

fiji to win the rugby world cup.

[MrBling]

I blame it on the boogie.........

[kwozy]

hey maybe the national sport is dying with lack of spectators who goes week in week out to pay good money to watch a side loose every week when you can do other things instead