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Im still disappointed, the screenshots look good, as in average for a modern game. I was hoping for something that really took a step up from rfactor 1. Yes the images look sharper but I was hoping for a new DX11 engine that really delivered a next gen experience.Harding Jr wrote:
As I said last night, I don't think dx9 will be a problem. If you've got a good computer it will look mean. If you have a lower end PC, it won't look as good. But you will still be able to play. Everyone is a winner.
If you have a new high end PC and play a game like Metro 2033, the step up is realism is huge from something like COD6. COD6 still looks great IMO, but is shiny and nice where Metro is real looking. Skin has a texture and each individual hair is drawn. Imagine that level of detail in a sim! Watching graining appear on tyres, seeing individual marbles off the racing line etc. That is what I was wanting.
If they had to choose out of making the game feel great or look great I would choose feel everyday. That is the most important thing. But with how long they have had I really expected something more than DX9. Please dont tell me they havent included decent surround sound
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Completely agree with you, I expected a bigger jump in the graphics department as well. The only screenshots that look decent are the rain ones, I'm suprised really.mrsinista wrote:Im still disappointed, the screenshots look good, as in average for a modern game. I was hoping for something that really took a step up from rfactor 1. Yes the images look sharper but I was hoping for a new DX11 engine that really delivered a next gen experience.Harding Jr wrote:
As I said last night, I don't think dx9 will be a problem. If you've got a good computer it will look mean. If you have a lower end PC, it won't look as good. But you will still be able to play. Everyone is a winner.
If you have a new high end PC and play a game like Metro 2033, the step up is realism is huge from something like COD6. COD6 still looks great IMO, but is shiny and nice where Metro is real looking. Skin has a texture and each individual hair is drawn. Imagine that level of detail in a sim! Watching graining appear on tyres, seeing individual marbles off the racing line etc. That is what I was wanting.
If they had to choose out of making the game feel great or look great I would choose feel everyday. That is the most important thing. But with how long they have had I really expected something more than DX9. Please dont tell me they havent included decent surround sound
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I think at the end of the day ISI isn't a big budget developer like EA etc, so they probably can't afford or have the resources to completely recreate the graphics engine for rF2.
The physics engine is the main thing anyway, which I have no doubt will be a vast improvement over the current one. It still looks pretty though and maybe not up to current gen standard, you aren't really going to notice the lack of DX11 at 180 miles per hour down conrod straight
The physics engine is the main thing anyway, which I have no doubt will be a vast improvement over the current one. It still looks pretty though and maybe not up to current gen standard, you aren't really going to notice the lack of DX11 at 180 miles per hour down conrod straight
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Flashy graphics are one thing - but it is pointless looking nice if the physics are crap. Its the physics that make the mod - for example the Historix. Everyone loves that mod because the car is more controlable etc.mrsinista wrote:Im still disappointed, the screenshots look good, as in average for a modern game. I was hoping for something that really took a step up from rfactor 1. Yes the images look sharper but I was hoping for a new DX11 engine that really delivered a next gen experience.Harding Jr wrote:
As I said last night, I don't think dx9 will be a problem. If you've got a good computer it will look mean. If you have a lower end PC, it won't look as good. But you will still be able to play. Everyone is a winner.
If you have a new high end PC and play a game like Metro 2033, the step up is realism is huge from something like COD6. COD6 still looks great IMO, but is shiny and nice where Metro is real looking. Skin has a texture and each individual hair is drawn. Imagine that level of detail in a sim! Watching graining appear on tyres, seeing individual marbles off the racing line etc. That is what I was wanting.
If they had to choose out of making the game feel great or look great I would choose feel everyday. That is the most important thing. But with how long they have had I really expected something more than DX9. Please dont tell me they havent included decent surround sound
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. But I wouldn't get too worried about the graphics, the rF2 dev guy has tried to remind people on the VIR forums several times that all the graphics are WIP (although this really means a 2010 release is hopeful).When the graphics have been good, like the rain shots, they have been pretty good.Growler wrote: Flashy graphics are one thing - but it is pointless looking nice if the physics are crap. Its the physics that make the mod - for example the Historix. Everyone loves that mod because the car is more controlable etc.
I'm with Sin really....... top notch sound please
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G you make it sound like you can only have good physics if the graphics are average or that if the graphics are great the physics must be bad. I want both to be top notch. Im disappointed that they are releasing a game in 2010-2011 with a DX9 engine that debuted in 2003. DX10 is now 4 years old. Sure you can sqeeze more and more out of DX9 but it is an old engine which will use about 10 percent of what my PC is capable off.Growler wrote:Flashy graphics are one thing - but it is pointless looking nice if the physics are crap. Its the physics that make the mod - for example the Historix. Everyone loves that mod because the car is more controlable etc.mrsinista wrote:Im still disappointed, the screenshots look good, as in average for a modern game. I was hoping for something that really took a step up from rfactor 1. Yes the images look sharper but I was hoping for a new DX11 engine that really delivered a next gen experience.Harding Jr wrote:
As I said last night, I don't think dx9 will be a problem. If you've got a good computer it will look mean. If you have a lower end PC, it won't look as good. But you will still be able to play. Everyone is a winner.
If you have a new high end PC and play a game like Metro 2033, the step up is realism is huge from something like COD6. COD6 still looks great IMO, but is shiny and nice where Metro is real looking. Skin has a texture and each individual hair is drawn. Imagine that level of detail in a sim! Watching graining appear on tyres, seeing individual marbles off the racing line etc. That is what I was wanting.
If they had to choose out of making the game feel great or look great I would choose feel everyday. That is the most important thing. But with how long they have had I really expected something more than DX9. Please dont tell me they havent included decent surround sound
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I do agree that they should have implemented dx10 and dx11 as options. Much like how rFactor (1) has options for dx7 and dx8. This would mean lower end computer and user's are happy and those people who spend thousands of $$$ on their gaming instead of buying a real car and racing are happy too .mrsinista wrote:Sure you can sqeeze more and more out of DX9 but it is an old engine which will use about 10 percent of what my PC is capable off.
EDIT: This was interpreted wrong. I meant how rFactor (1) has option dx7, dx8 and dx9. It would be convenient if rFactor2 had options dx9, dx10 and dx11 as options.
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Im pretty sure I read RF2 will only support DX9... no 7 or 8 support, so start saving your hard earned cash if you run in 7 or 8 now.
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bawaahaha....who the hell runs in dx7 or 8? and why?
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Not at all. I too would prefer awsome graphics along with excellent physics. What I'm saying is that if the physics are spot on people will still play it long term as apposed to a flashy looking game with crap physics.mrsinista wrote:G you make it sound like you can only have good physics if the graphics are average or that if the graphics are great the physics must be bad. I want both to be top notch. Im disappointed that they are releasing a game in 2010-2011 with a DX9 engine that debuted in 2003. DX10 is now 4 years old. Sure you can sqeeze more and more out of DX9 but it is an old engine which will use about 10 percent of what my PC is capable off.
For example I would get more long term enjoyment playing Richard Burns Rally than I would playing Dirt 2.
And to be honest I don't look at how pretty the graphics are when I'm racing. I'm too concentrated on chasing the cars in front (Passing Rifty for the third time!)
I'm just hoping it is a big improvement all round.
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I would love to buy a real race car and race it for the cost of my PC. If someone can tell me how to buy and maintain a race car for $2k every 2 or 3 years that would be great!Harding Jr wrote:I do agree that they should have implemented dx10 and dx11 as options. Much like how rFactor (1) has options for dx7 and dx8. This would mean lower end computer and user's are happy and those people who spend thousands of $$$ on their gaming instead of buying a real car and racing are happy too .mrsinista wrote:Sure you can sqeeze more and more out of DX9 but it is an old engine which will use about 10 percent of what my PC is capable off.
EDIT: This was interpreted wrong. I meant how rFactor (1) has option dx7, dx8 and dx9. It would be convenient if rFactor2 had options dx9, dx10 and dx11 as options.
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Very nice! Not over done, looks spot on.
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A lot of people run DX8 as a workaround for the horrible DX9 support in rFactor which causes lock-ups on some video cards.code wrote:bawaahaha....who the hell runs in dx7 or 8? and why?
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UPDATE: ISI has removed the video as it was only uploaded for testing purposes, proper footage of the drying line feature will be available soon!
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Thank God... I wasnt impressed by what I watched.Timothy Wheatley
This video was just posted on our forums to ask rendering advice from people on the forum. If you go to our Youtube page you don't see it there. I'm fine with Montoya posting it here (that's his job), but it will be deleted when I have finished testing rendering so I can produce one which isn't about the rendering and actually shows the drying line effects
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Real one,,, still not that impressed.
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Looks promisingHugh Jarse wrote:Real one,,, still not that impressed.
I can see that being used in Dirt/Speedway with the track starting off wet and slickening off as the race goes on
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Now that would be awesome!!!Bull wrote:I can see that being used in Dirt/Speedway with the track starting off wet and slickening off as the race goes on
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The wet/dry bits look good with the shadows and other stuff. The core graphics still look a bit rF1 ish though. Wish it could look a bit more like Shift 2, which might well be shite but looks incredible in the graphics dept.
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From the above video, we see what was being talked about here and they have delivered exactly what they have promised. . If you look at the practice session timer whilst the clips change the time change is bugger. 1-2minutes and the look of the surface has completely changed. On a large track such as that also that only means the traffic will have gone over it once in that time period to change it that much!. 30cars going around a 400m dirt oval will change it dramatically!! HELL YEAH BROTHER!Harding Jr wrote:That is going to be awesome! I sure do how that on softer surfaces, such as gravel, dirt, grass and sandtraps that the actual surface can be moved. Hence creating ruts and moving the raceline as the race goes on.Growler wrote:Hmmmmm...
While we're implementing many requests from various league admins to enhance the online experience, probably the biggest feature that affects both single and multiplayer is our new dynamic racing surface technology, or RealRoad. The track will "rubber in" as the weekend unfolds, excessive rain can clean the track surface, drylines will appear as the cars dry out the track, and marbles begin to build up as the race unfolds. All of this is constantly affecting the grip level of the track, and none of it is predetermined, but rather it is based on where and how the cars are driven. It will especially make online racing a whole new experience...