Momo vs G27

[Yoda_NZ]

After getting caught out without having auto blip on the Shanghi 79GP on Sunday, I was doing a little research and ended looking at reviews of the G27. Many of the reviewers say that the G27 is miles ahead of the Momo and due to the higher quality FFB it feels heaps better and they are driving quicker.

Interesting in hearing from any that have moved from the momo to the G27 what are our thoughts

My birthday is coming up soon, maybe a hint or two the wife might proof useful.

[BK]

Do it! You won't regret it.

I had a momo for a long while and then moved to the G27. For the money it was fantastic and my driving and times improved.

Great feel and I like the ability to have up tp 900 degrees turn.

As for the auto blip, I'm not sure but I think the KSR servers are set to having this off, but don't quote me on it.

[Scrunty]

Have just moved last week from a momo-red, before that a momo-black.
Not sure who really uses the full 900deg, far to many turns to be making quickly.. usually you've lost it if your turning that many times
Aside from a small dead-zone at the top-centre (something to do with the twin motors not fighting each other) the ffb is good - miles better than a black and much better than a red.
Pedals are the biggest step-up for me, and I love having the H-shifter (also I've just tried the rubber-band mod for sequential, works better than a G25 sequential )

If you're momo black then do it - also don't pay more than $350 for it (super good guys here: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/compone ... rtid=10824)

[Yoda_NZ]

Thanks Scrunty that looks like a great deal. Either way I might buy one.

Seems like the jump from a Momo black to the G27 would be a good one

[Scrunty]

To put that price in perspective I paid $342 from one of my works wholesalers, and that was pick-up - not delivered (because they are just down the road and convenient)
Have bought thousands of dollars of stuff off computerlounge, top guys.

[Bold]

Or even better - http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecific ... mID=383133

[Scrunty]

Wow that's a superb price, also a great place to buy from

[Hardman]

Hey Yoda, did you go ahead and buy the G27? I have a MOMO too and have been wondering the same thing.

[Yoda_NZ]

I will but have not ordered it yet. Plan to do it this week once I 'smooth' the way

[BK]

I will but have not ordered it yet. Plan to do it this week once I 'smooth' the way

Just remember the stats:

Cheap competition car = $8,000
Overalls, gloves and helment = $1000
Race licence = $200
Trailer to tow race car = $2000
Tow bar for towing car = $500
The need to buy tow car = $7000
Fuel and travel costs per weekend = $500
Entry fee to race event = $130
Food / Beer for weekend = $300
Time off work to travel = 1 days annual leave
Repairs because someone hit you = $2000


Cost of new G27 wheel = $325

More time for the wife = priceless

[Yoda_NZ]

Ordered and awaiting delivery....

[Riftcreator]

I will but have not ordered it yet. Plan to do it this week once I 'smooth' the way

Just remember the stats:

Cheap competition car = $8,000
Overalls, gloves and helment = $1000
Race licence = $200
Trailer to tow race car = $2000
Tow bar for towing car = $500
The need to buy tow car = $7000
Fuel and travel costs per weekend = $500
Entry fee to race event = $130
Food / Beer for weekend = $300
Time off work to travel = 1 days annual leave
Repairs because someone hit you = $2000


Cost of new G27 wheel = $325

More time for the wife = priceless

I spent more time with the family/wife when I was actually racing But it cost a shit load more than the wife expected

[Yoda_NZ]

Had my first run with the G27 last night. Am using the same FFB / realfeel setting as the black momo. Have currently set the degrees of rotation to 200, or more correctly I did not change it after loading the software. Will have a play with the settings over the weekend

The G27 was much more precise on the wheel and using the brakes (much stronger pedal pressure on the G27) were the main differences. The brakes will take the most getting use to, just getting the right pressure and easing off at the right time will take a bit of practice.

Was running the V8's last night and used some set ups from BK and Rifty (thanks guys - interesting how different peoples driving preferences can be) and picked up some time (combination of the wheel and setups I think) over the old wheel. Much easier to correct slides. Still not easy to avoid a couple of people parked on the apex of the first corner - sorry

All in all a good move to get the G27, it is a really nice piece of kit and certainly a step up from my old black momo. Now if only I good buy a step up in talent!

[BK]

All in all a good move to get the G27, it is a really nice piece of kit and certainly a step up from my old black momo. Now if only I good buy a step up in talent!

I saw the times coming down last night. Good work.

Now when you find the where to buy the talent stuff, flick me a PM. No need to tell the rest is there?

[Riftcreator]

You were making great improvements last night Yoda. I run a G25, and like you had a Momo before that.
My lap times are a little better with the G25 when driving the V8's, but not by much. But the big difference is the car control when things get loose. With the G25 I can catch slides faster as the 25 has much better FFB and is telling me more through the wheel than the Momo.

Pedals are the big difference though, so much better to use and have made a massive difference when driving the HistorX mod

I have some more stable setups you can try if you want. They're a little slower on the lap times (.500 or so) but are very very stable.

[Yoda_NZ]

I would be interested in trying the other setups. Going by last night I was losing all my ground in the second half of the track and of course once you make 1 error on the track it can compound to the next corner and so on.

Watching the inside of your cars from the pits it seems like they are glued to the track (mostly ) where as I do not have that kind of control yet. I have to learn how to go around medium speed corners better and conversely when to go slower. I think I am over cooking my entry at times and compromising my exit.

I'm always happy to receive hints or tips about my driving style. To be competitive I have to learn the good and the bad.

[Growler]

Much easier to correct slides. Still not easy to avoid a couple of people parked on the apex of the first corner - sorry

You can blame Gordon for that...

[Hardman]

Good to hear the new wheel is helping you get quicker. Is the G27 quieter than the momo? That is one of the mrs criteria

[MadaMaoriJR]

I think the center wheel mech (cogs/pullies/motor system) was chenged to make the G27 quieter then earlier models.

Like my old logitech DFP wheel and others ive herd online (momo's DFP/GT & G25s) when the mic is pressed and there working hard, there wheels sound like there cutting a piece of wood with a handsaw lol

[Bold]

There is the added click click click coming from the shifter of course.

[Hardman]

I think the mrs hears the quick correction turns and the noise annoys her when she is trying to sleep. Been thinking about getting a fanatec belt drive instead of gear drive but they cost twice as much once you factor in the pedals. I have heard rifty hard at work on teamspeak with his g25 and was surprised with how noisy it was. But price of the g27 is so good...

[BK]

Remember that noise travels through what ever it's mounted to.

SO if you mount to a desk that's fixed to the wall, potentially the noise travels all the way through the walls. Sim rigs will help isolate the noise travel.

I have the issue with noise travel as I don't use a rig. Bought the mrs ear plugs! (not really... I don't think the outcome is worth contemplating if I did!)

[Yoda_NZ]

Certainly quieter than the momo, but not by a lot.