2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

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2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Mike » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:45 pm

Race Night

Timeline
7:30PM - Official Practice
8:15PM - Qualifying (30 Minutes)
8:45PM - Drivers Briefing
8:50PM - Race Start (72 Minutes) (NOTE: 2 Compulsory Pitstops)

Qualifying
A standard qualifying session will be used to determine the starting grid.

Compulsory Pitstops
There are to be two compulsory pit stops made in the race by each driver. Stopping inside your pit box is sufficient. Whether you choose to take tyres, take fuel, or repair damage is up to you.

Race Time
The race session will start with in-game time being set to dawn, and will end at dusk, as in the real event.

Race Settings
Flag Rules - Black Only
Damage - 60%
Fuel usage - 2X
Tire Usage - 2X
Mech Failures - Normal
Practice Time - 45 Minutes
Qualifying Time - 30 Minutes
Race Length - 72 Minutes
Time Simulation - 10x
Type of Start - Standing

Driving Aids
Traction Control - 0
Anti Lock Brakes - 0
Auto Clutch - Yes
Driving View - Open

Crossing The Finish Line
Please refrain from post-race chat ("congratulations", etc.) until after all competitors have crossed the line.


Driver Notes
-As the race starts at dawn and ends at dusk, make sure you have a headlight button bound.
-This is a round in both the Enduro Series, and the Asia Pacific Championship. Please make sure you have signed up on the points site for both leagues.

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Riftcreator » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:13 am

Looking forward to this :D

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by quatri21 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:13 am

I find this version of bathurst weird tbh but not complaining :D

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Bull » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:19 am

quatri21 wrote:I find this version of bathurst weird tbh but not complaining :D
I personally think it has a bit too much grip and a bit smooth compared to the other variants but is probably a safer choice for an enduro

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by quatri21 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:07 pm

Bull wrote:
quatri21 wrote:I find this version of bathurst weird tbh but not complaining :D
I personally think it has a bit too much grip and a bit smooth compared to the other variants but is probably a safer choice for an enduro
i also find the corners weird...maybe im just too used with the other version as I ran it on endurance as well (6hrs)

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Murphy's Law » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:24 pm

quatri21 wrote:
Bull wrote:
quatri21 wrote:I find this version of bathurst weird tbh but not complaining :D
I personally think it has a bit too much grip and a bit smooth compared to the other variants but is probably a safer choice for an enduro
i also find the corners weird...maybe im just too used with the other version as I ran it on endurance as well (6hrs)
I personally find all versions of the track outside of the Iracing one just dont feel right.
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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Bull » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:49 pm

Both the iRacing and S397 versions are scanned so realistically only the texturing and grip levels should vary between the two

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by quatri21 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:51 pm

Bull wrote:Both the iRacing and S397 versions are scanned so realistically only the texturing and grip levels should vary between the two
I believe rfactor 2 still does not have scanned tracks...they are still working on their first one

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Bull » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:38 pm

quatri21 wrote:
Bull wrote:Both the iRacing and S397 versions are scanned so realistically only the texturing and grip levels should vary between the two
I believe rfactor 2 still does not have scanned tracks...they are still working on their first one
RF2 does a different type of scan. They are LiDAR scanned rather than laser scanned. Just a different method.

Their Bathurst track is a conversion from the scan they did for Shift 2 I believe (they have a working relationship that goes both ways)

That version isn't the one we are using for this series

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by quatri21 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:42 pm

Bull wrote:
quatri21 wrote:
Bull wrote:Both the iRacing and S397 versions are scanned so realistically only the texturing and grip levels should vary between the two
I believe rfactor 2 still does not have scanned tracks...they are still working on their first one
RF2 does a different type of scan. They are LiDAR scanned rather than laser scanned. Just a different method.

Their Bathurst track is a conversion from the scan they did for Shift 2 I believe (they have a working relationship that goes both ways)

That version isn't the one we are using for this series
oh wow...learned something today nice

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Mike » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:48 pm

Bull wrote:
quatri21 wrote:
Bull wrote:Both the iRacing and S397 versions are scanned so realistically only the texturing and grip levels should vary between the two
I believe rfactor 2 still does not have scanned tracks...they are still working on their first one
RF2 does a different type of scan. They are LiDAR scanned rather than laser scanned. Just a different method.

Their Bathurst track is a conversion from the scan they did for Shift 2 I believe (they have a working relationship that goes both ways)

That version isn't the one we are using for this series
The ISI Bathurst track is a "3PA" track (what they call 3rd-party content), and I'm fairly sure it's not scanned.

Shift 2 was by SMS, who do Project Cars - but I've no idea what the deal is with their Bathurst.

I do remember that for the very first rF2 league we did we had the ISI version of Bathurst, but we switched to the one we're using now, but I can't entirely remember why. The comments on Steam Workshop imply that the ISI version is worse than the current chosen one.

Obviously, it's not gonna be as good as the laser scanned iRacing one, but I believe it's the best available for rF2.

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Bull » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:50 pm

Yes third party. It may not be shift 2 but I know they had an agreement with one of the other studios to use it. There was a comparison video on the steam forums at one point showing them side to side

It's not used as the majority feel it's too bumpy and difficult to drive compared to the more popular version

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Post by Murphy's Law » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:20 am

Bull wrote:Yes third party. It may not be shift 2 but I know they had an agreement with one of the other studios to use it. There was a comparison video on the steam forums at one point showing them side to side

It's not used as the majority feel it's too bumpy and difficult to drive compared to the more popular version
Could that be because it was scanned before it was resurfaced? The feel i have had with both the RF2 versions is there is minor details missing that help with the immersion level and they also feel to wide.
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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Bull » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:59 am

Quite possible, the Rf version would be from probably 2013/2014

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Post by Murphy's Law » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:05 pm

Bull wrote:Quite possible, the Rf version would be from probably 2013/2014
About the same time Iracing scanned it and there is a few bumps in that version too so that would make sense.
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Post by Riftcreator » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:22 pm

What a great nights racing, till the last stint >_<

Sorry to Fez for the amateur pass attempt at the last corner. Glad there was no contact.
The Crew Chief app told me you had called a Pitstop and you were pitting in, when you didn't I fumbled and went all thumbs trying to make a pass that wasn't on. Thankfully the concrete wall stopped me _b :(

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Post by Erik » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:04 pm

That was an awesome race guys. It was quite a big field as well, which was great. My apologies for making a mess (of Porsche parts) on top of the Mountain and apologies for those I held up on that stretch of the circuit. :look:

It certainly was the longest race I've ever done and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Having overshot a corner during the last 10 minutes of the race left me with ruined tires and a fast approaching green Lambo, resulting in a great fight over the mountain during the final laps of the race! _b

I dare say I prefer these races over Sprint races :crazy:

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Bull » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:11 pm

My bad run at Bathurst continued.

Was an enjoyable night though, and was great to see some new faces and great sized field. Looking forward to the rest of the series and hoping to see some the new faces join us in other series as well

Well done to Alexis, and all those who finished on the lead lap, its an unforgiving circuit so to not go a lap down, especially without safety cars etc, is quite an achievement. _b _b

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Danman » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:25 pm

A fun nights racing with some entertaining moments - watching Bull rolling at pit entry, Riffty running wide at murrays corner. :)
Stupid question time - how do you know when you have a puncture? Near the end of the race my car was wheel spinning under hard acceleration, even down Conrod.
I spent a couple of laps going quite slow while I studied the HUD - tyres looked ok, handling was ok, no trail of sparks :D
Maybe it was the gearbox? It seemed to come right mostly, a few laps from the end.
I had bumped the wall a few times, and left front & right rear guards were dark blue on the damage screen, but tyre temps etc looked normal.

Anyway, happy to finish right way up :D
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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Growler » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:13 pm

Was good racing until my first pit stop. I had Bull cutting the grass in front of me while I tried to get into the pits, and then once in the pits had Murphy shunt me out of the way which gave me damage but only gave me half a tank as a result. Killed the engine as I changed down two gears by mistake braking for the kink.
Cheers to the guys that held their line while the faster cars passed them.

Damn good racing with Mike while it lasted!

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Murphy's Law » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:43 pm

Erik wrote:I dare say I prefer these races over Sprint races :crazy:
I second that one!
Growler wrote: and then once in the pits had Murphy shunt me out of the way which gave me damage but only gave me half a tank as a result.
Yeah sorry about that.... Bad Habit from Iracing....

I can not drive through cars in the pits!
I can not drive through cars in the pits!
I can not drive through cars in the pits!



The first stint was great fun. I got the Jump of the line on Rifty and was 2nd for most of the first stint. Was interesting How Bull drove off in to the distance at the start but by the end of the stint both me and Rifty were catching him. Its just shame Myself, Rifty and Bull had our issues, IT would have been a hell of a race for the podium if we hadn't because over a stint all 4 of us were just as fast as each other. But can't wait for Sebring..... is Rifty the favorite for that race?
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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Riftcreator » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:10 pm

Ha!

Doubt it, as many know I love that track, however I've never placed well there.

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by MadaMaoriJR » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:49 pm

Great track fun night indeed.

Congrats to top 3 and everyone that survived at The Mount

Sorry to Riven for the hit under braking at the Chase ( had to much rear brake bias )

Thanks again and see you for the next one _b
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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Erik » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:21 pm

Small question regarding the points site - I can now see the results under the NZrFL-45 Asia Pacific GT3 championship as Round 3 in the series. But when I select the 2018 GT3 Endurance series, I see nothing under results.

With the Bathurst round counting for both series, should I see the results also as Round 1 under the Endurance championship? Or will this only show those rounds that are only part of the Endurance championship and not for both series?

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Re: 2018 Enduro Series: Round 1 Bathurst // APAC Round 3 (06/02/18)

Post by Mike » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:35 pm

Erik wrote:Small question regarding the points site - I can now see the results under the NZrFL-45 Asia Pacific GT3 championship as Round 3 in the series. But when I select the 2018 GT3 Endurance series, I see nothing under results.

With the Bathurst round counting for both series, should I see the results also as Round 1 under the Endurance championship? Or will this only show those rounds that are only part of the Endurance championship and not for both series?
The points have been uploaded into the GT3 APAC league on the points site. But there's an issue with uploading the results into the Enduro league. We're not entirely sure why, but hopefully we can sort it out in the next few days.

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