Nascar CTS League - Race 9 Dover International Speedway

TonyG · Post by **TonyG** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:17 am

I've been practicing offline to get ready for the next race, and gotta say, this will be a doozi i O_O

The pit entry is narrow.............

= spinning

The pit exit is narrow...............

= spinning

The corners are tight...............

= spinning

Passing on the inside...............

= spinning

Impatient drivers....................

= spinning

30+ drivers............................

= spinning

Tyres wear out quickly............

= spinning

I think it's gonna be a great night

Sulley · Post by **Sulley** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:25 am

And the positive is?

Monsters turn for some luck and get back to the lead in the standings, fingers crossed.

Mattly · Post by **Mattly** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:26 am

I feel sick

TonyG · Post by **TonyG** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:34 am

Sulley wrote:And the positive is?

Monsters turn for some luck and get back to the lead in the standings, fingers crossed.

Lots of positives........................errr............3 P's

Gotta race POSITIVELY

Gotta race PATIENTLY

Gotta race after PRACTICING (lots)

Eagle32 · Post by **Eagle32** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:39 am

This isn't directed at you Tony but I feel the need to pre-empt all the crying that is sure to come as it has on the last two small tracks.

If people spent more time practising and less time crying about the small tracks they'd go a lot better. But people come into the track with the wrong attitude and it goes badly. Is it really suprising?

If everyone can concentrate this week on there own driving and track knowledge rather than crying about the track we might get a less crash happy race.

Everyone should know the following as a bare minimum of knowledge on any track.

Pit speed limit.
Pace speed if it differs from pit speed limit.
How to enter/exit the pits on cold/worn tires without spinning.
How to drive the start on cold tires without spinning.
How to drive 2 wide at the start on cold tires without spinning.
How to drive high and low lines on the track, especially if you have to go substantially slower to hold those lines.
How to slow the car in a corner without spinning.
Generally how to drive without spinning your own car and causing chaos.

That's my short list for now there is more but these spring to mind first.

Anyone that's going to come on to the track without taking the time to do some practise and has the attitude "small track why practise it'll go badly anyway" or "I've had an accident f..kit I'm screwed" and stops concentrating will cause accidents and get caught up in them and I suggest that they sit the race out for everyones sake.

Let's see if we can do this one right!

Is it Wednesday yet?

UnbounD · Post by **UnbounD** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:52 am

Could not have said it better myself.

Redvalient..... If you are not spotted on the server on either Mon/Tues night and/or at least one hour before race start THIS week, I will lodge a protest.
There are rules for Rookies, READ THEM.

I love small tracks, cant wait!

TonyG · Post by **TonyG** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:55 am

Well said Eagle

, I was trying to be a bit facetious, but you put it a lot better

Post by **Inspector** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:11 pm

Excellent post Eagle! This is the sort of post the organisers would normally come up with. I foresee a new organiser raising his hand very soon? I think Eagle makes it very clear, each and every driver is responsible for making it a good race.

Good also to see positive attitudes from Tony and UnbounD. Despite all the carnage in previous races and negative post race comments, these guys are willing to give it a real go and what's more help their fellow drivers.

Happy, Bazz & I are hoping to get together tonight or over the weekend for a bit of GTR gameage and we will also have a run on Dover and offer up any advice we can. Be good to see feedback from any of the drivers after they have had a practice on how you feel people should approach the race/track.

odonohuesp · Post by **odonohuesp** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:37 pm

I'm not sure how most guys practice, but I would recommend having some AI cars on the track, even run a race and start from the back of the field and see how well you do in traffic and work your way up without hitting the driver in front of you.

Eagle32 · Post by **Eagle32** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:47 pm

TonyG wrote:Well said Eagle , I was trying to be a bit facetious, but you put it a lot better

Hehe, I figured. Just covering myself. You know what post lawyers can be like

Inspector wrote: I foresee a new organiser raising his hand very soon?

I did indicate in one of the discussions somewhere that I'll make myself available in whatever capacity is needed next season.

Happy · Post by **Happy** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:50 pm

It's all very well being positive about the race, but whether or not you're positive about it isn't going to stop it being a ding fest >8D.

If you expect dings, you won't be so annoyed when you get ripped.

odonohuesp · Post by **odonohuesp** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:32 pm

Happy.....I'm expecting dings, that is how I plan to move my way to the front.

TonyG · Post by **TonyG** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:42 pm

Track not on server yet

chronic · Post by **chronic** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:03 pm

Is there a practice tonight?

Post by **Jetboy** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:13 pm

Server should be up and running with CTS....cheers Riven

UnbounD · Post by **UnbounD** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:32 pm

Im wondering if the secret to us running smaller tracks is maybe to reduce the wear rate to 1x.
We uped the rate to make the superspeedways more interesting. Small tracks are more than interesting enough. With the lack of grip on good meats and the damage a spin does at 2x, 1x might just crack it for us all.

Someit to thunk about:)

chronic · Post by **chronic** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:34 pm

Good point, I've just discovered Dover is hell on tires.

UnbounD · Post by **UnbounD** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:56 pm

chronic wrote:Good point, I've just discovered Dover is hell on tires.

Remove "on tires" and your there.....

I did a 20% race last night. Looping it will almost lose you a lap, and thats just on your own.

Its gonna be scaaaary

BAZZIL · Post by **BAZZIL** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:33 pm

do we need another setup ?

TonyG · Post by **TonyG** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:32 pm

it would be silly to change things at this late stage, with everyone practicing on current settings for the past week, something for the future

chronic · Post by **chronic** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:52 pm

Setup seems ok to me, pretty stable just have to watch your tire wear.

Eagle32 · Post by **Eagle32** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:25 pm

The setups fine. The track is trickey to drive and the pit speed sucks but it's a lot of fun

Some people need to learn than that if they blat off for the first few laps the tires go to shit in no time at all. If on the other hand you ease off just a little bit more in the corners your tires will be a lot better to drive on. Looking after your tires is going to be critical tomorrow.

Despite all the crying during tonights practise a single spin doesn't root your tires either. A couple of spins causes some wear and you'll have to drive accordingly but they are not "completely shagged" by all means.
Even with a tire in the red and the rest yellow you can turn 26s laps if you drive the car appropriately. Yes your a couple of seconds slower but the point is that worn tires are not an excuse for spinning yourself all the time. You not practising enough to drive on worn tires is not the cars problem.

The idea of 1x wear for short circuits has some merit. I do however enjoy the extra stratergy 2x wear brings to the racing, especially on tracks like this where wear is heavy and drivers who think about how they are driving are rewarded.

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BAZZIL · Post by **BAZZIL** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:34 pm

all you have to do is make sure you always have at least some accelerator on, if you lift of completely then that's when she starts to spin.
Moreso entering the pits, all you do is apply some brake but make sure you never lift off the accelerator completely, otherwise round she goes

Dunno how Doug will enter the pits without spinning

being a right foot braker and all

Patience will be key in the bit race

Sulley · Post by **Sulley** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:45 pm

Apologies all round, especially Pat who I abused badly, I'm not well but his blocking the track when I was leading really got my goat, yes it was practice race, but hey I don't win anything so I got real shirty.

Cold medication is counteracting normal patience/karma meds so apologies