4age vs v6
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Sorry i have to disagree with you bull,
but everyone has own opinion,
I far from ford fan, but my dad had a old xa falcon that tow very well and the motor most likey still going,
It tow 18 foot boat most summer weekends and around 18 foot caravan,
but everyone has own opinion,
I far from ford fan, but my dad had a old xa falcon that tow very well and the motor most likey still going,
It tow 18 foot boat most summer weekends and around 18 foot caravan,
When the clutch drops the bullshit stops
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Re: 4age vs v6
get a RB corrin g
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Yea, it will tow it. No better then any other car though.BADASS_CHB wrote:Sorry i have to disagree with you bull,
but everyone has own opinion,
I far from ford fan, but my dad had a old xa falcon that tow very well and the motor most likey still going,
It tow 18 foot boat most summer weekends and around 18 foot caravan,
Im just saying, when everyone says oh you need a falcon/commodore to tow, you don't ... theres plenty of Japanese cars just as capable at towing as any other.
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I agree..SLIDES. wrote:get a RB corrin g
Even though I think RBs are overrated, there are plenty of better towing options for that price range then a commodore Corrin, which is the whole point Im trying to make.
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there were no carby v6 commodores made?Bull wrote:are u talking about towing or getting the milk from the shop,Bull wrote:A 4AGE would outlast a V6 Buick any day of the week. Theres a reason why Corollas go round the clock and still keep going like new.BADASS_CHB wrote:years would tell, v6 will be still going ,
Towing mate.
The particular car he linked me to was an old Commodore wagon with a carburettored, automatic v6 in it rated at 160hp from new.... Hardly any more then a 4age. Sure it will have a bit more torque, but considering his celica is probably half the weight ...
Don't knock anything until you try it badass. I can tell you now that almost most fords if not all I would recommend not to tow ... and I work for a ford dealership!
I well tuned, modern V6 would mop the floor in towing for sure, but then a 4AGE is a good 30 year old engine as well so you could say a modern 3SGE would tow just as well ...
and celicas didnt come with a 4age
and its all relitive to what you are going to be towing
my vy had no trouble towing my 2ton 4wd around the place now if i had put that on the back of my wifes rolla im picking it wouldve given up
when i was towing the minisprint round with the safari it drove like there was nothing behind it.
so it really depends on what you are going to be towing around
my 2 c worth
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Yes Celicas came with a 4AGE ... otherwise Corrin can't even read his own engine tag right
The newer Commodores (VY etc) are fine, like Ive previously said ... its the earlier ones .. as I said to Corrin ...
The newer Commodores (VY etc) are fine, like Ive previously said ... its the earlier ones .. as I said to Corrin ...
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AgreeTerminator-141d wrote:both shit get a v8
Nothing beats a V8
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A guy at my work is putting a 2JZGTE into a R32 Skyline lolNaki wrote:2jzgte
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Wicked..Just about everyones going jz around the naki now..Theres heaps of them..And there will be afew in the drift scene this season.
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Celicas had a 3sge or a 3sgte didnt they?
And i hate to say it but hardings got a good point.
Had a work mate who brought himself a monster of a boat, not sure of size but she was big.
Anywho the only vehicle that had the towbar rating was a nissan safari and man could it tow, turbo deisel aswell.
And i hate to say it but hardings got a good point.
Had a work mate who brought himself a monster of a boat, not sure of size but she was big.
Anywho the only vehicle that had the towbar rating was a nissan safari and man could it tow, turbo deisel aswell.
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Id rather just put the JZ into a supra or other toyota rather then a skyline as theyre ugly lol but hey at least hes using a good engine.
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ok guys, coming from a guy who own's three Toyota Celica's. The only car's he has ever owned are Celica's.
The AT-160 chassis (made in New Zealand before the Toyota Factory shut in late 86, some in Australia and Portugal along with a few other country's all came out with Generation 2 4A-GE engines made between 84 and 89.
However the ST-162 Chassis's never were powered with mini 1587cc of 4A-GE but they started to be powered by 1998cc of 3S-FE (economy version) and 3S-GE (sports version) power plants. That were produced between 85 - 89.
There were also some All-trac model produced. These jem's run 3S-GTE 1998cc Turbo all wheel drive but in the same Generation 4 shape running the ST-162 chassis. I would love to get hold of one of these!
To the non-Celica trained eyes you could easily mistake the two chassis' for the same one. But they are slightly different.
And hell no would I tow in any of my cars! Just last weekend I had a full car of the guys going out to the rally and the loss of power was just stupid. That's only adding a few hundred KG's (chillybin inclusive) Adding a few thousand KGs and I wouldn't be getting out of 2nd gear!
Tow bar rating's are bloody stupid. The best way to do it is multiply it by two and then we are sorted. It seems you don't like agreeing with me Jono
The AT-160 chassis (made in New Zealand before the Toyota Factory shut in late 86, some in Australia and Portugal along with a few other country's all came out with Generation 2 4A-GE engines made between 84 and 89.
However the ST-162 Chassis's never were powered with mini 1587cc of 4A-GE but they started to be powered by 1998cc of 3S-FE (economy version) and 3S-GE (sports version) power plants. That were produced between 85 - 89.
There were also some All-trac model produced. These jem's run 3S-GTE 1998cc Turbo all wheel drive but in the same Generation 4 shape running the ST-162 chassis. I would love to get hold of one of these!
To the non-Celica trained eyes you could easily mistake the two chassis' for the same one. But they are slightly different.
And hell no would I tow in any of my cars! Just last weekend I had a full car of the guys going out to the rally and the loss of power was just stupid. That's only adding a few hundred KG's (chillybin inclusive) Adding a few thousand KGs and I wouldn't be getting out of 2nd gear!
Tow bar rating's are bloody stupid. The best way to do it is multiply it by two and then we are sorted. It seems you don't like agreeing with me Jono
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Got no problem with agreeing with someone when theyre right...even if it is youHarding Jr wrote:ok guys, coming from a guy who own's three Toyota Celica's. The only car's he has ever owned are Celica's.
The AT-160 chassis (made in New Zealand before the Toyota Factory shut in late 86, some in Australia and Portugal along with a few other country's all came out with Generation 2 4A-GE engines made between 84 and 89.
However the ST-162 Chassis's never were powered with mini 1587cc of 4A-GE but they started to be powered by 1998cc of 3S-FE (economy version) and 3S-GE (sports version) power plants. That were produced between 85 - 89.
There were also some All-trac model produced. These jem's run 3S-GTE 1998cc Turbo all wheel drive but in the same Generation 4 shape running the ST-162 chassis. I would love to get hold of one of these!
To the non-Celica trained eyes you could easily mistake the two chassis' for the same one. But they are slightly different.
And hell no would I tow in any of my cars! Just last weekend I had a full car of the guys going out to the rally and the loss of power was just stupid. That's only adding a few hundred KG's (chillybin inclusive) Adding a few thousand KGs and I wouldn't be getting out of 2nd gear!
Tow bar rating's are bloody stupid. The best way to do it is multiply it by two and then we are sorted. It seems you don't like agreeing with me Jono
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You've got a wonderful way with words my friend! I had quite the giggle to that .pacman wrote: And i hate to say it but hardings got a good point.
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i had a 3sge in my learners car i could smoke the wheels till 4th gear hahahapacman wrote:Celicas had a 3sge or a 3sgte didnt they?
And i hate to say it but hardings got a good point.
Had a work mate who brought himself a monster of a boat, not sure of size but she was big.
Anywho the only vehicle that had the towbar rating was a nissan safari and man could it tow, turbo deisel aswell.
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You guys want Towing power?
Heres my new rig at work .... (Sorry just have to show someone [LOL])
T404 SAR Kenworth
550hp CAT C15. 1550-2050 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
Corrin get one of these.. Best truck in the world! Fully Loaded im 50t. And still chugging up hills passing other trucks Just save around $300k and you'll be top of the game!
Heres my new rig at work .... (Sorry just have to show someone [LOL])
T404 SAR Kenworth
550hp CAT C15. 1550-2050 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
Corrin get one of these.. Best truck in the world! Fully Loaded im 50t. And still chugging up hills passing other trucks Just save around $300k and you'll be top of the game!
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ben62w wrote:You guys want Towing power?
Heres my new rig at work .... (Sorry just have to show someone [LOL])
T404 SAR Kenworth
550hp CAT C15. 1550-2050 lb-ft @ 1200 rpm
Corrin get one of these.. Best truck in the world! Fully Loaded im 50t. And still chugging up hills passing other trucks
yeah but i bet u cant smoke the wheels into 4th gear hahahahahha
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Empty had them spinning today going into top box lol, So. 9th? LOL
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ok only one way we can settle thisben62w wrote:Empty had them spinning today going into top box lol, So. 9th? LOL
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Yup.. Both towing 33t of sand up hill.. bring it haha
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sweet dirty old rolla could do that easy :Pben62w wrote:Yup.. Both towing 33t of sand up hill.. bring it haha
o and u gotta be running on the rims :P
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Re: 4age vs v6
lol makes me laugh when all these younger fella's start giving advice about cars lol seriously im pissing myself ..
bull if you had half a brain you'd be dangerous
personally i have seen the old buick v6 commie motors do some fricken amazing stuff ... ( in the 4wd scene as pnpete would know ) in saying that the odd zukie jeep has a 4age in them .. but you just dont see them in anything heavy .... reason behind that im guessing is complete lack of torque
bull if you had half a brain you'd be dangerous
personally i have seen the old buick v6 commie motors do some fricken amazing stuff ... ( in the 4wd scene as pnpete would know ) in saying that the odd zukie jeep has a 4age in them .. but you just dont see them in anything heavy .... reason behind that im guessing is complete lack of torque
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Again someone who didn't read all of what I said.hawkins wrote:lol makes me laugh when all these younger fella's start giving advice about cars lol seriously im pissing myself ..
bull if you had half a brain you'd be dangerous
personally i have seen the old buick v6 commie motors do some fricken amazing stuff ... ( in the 4wd scene as pnpete would know ) in saying that the odd zukie jeep has a 4age in them .. but you just dont see them in anything heavy .... reason behind that im guessing is complete lack of torque
What I said is that the Particular car Corrin linked me to was an early model and underpowered, and there are far better towing options out there. He then said his celica couldn't tow jackshit, and I reckoned it could because of the experience I had with 4AGE engines (Admittedly Ive never had one in a Celica). Corrin then decided to post a topic on here and see how many people would spam post to get their post count up ... err I mean offer advice
From my experience in the many 4AGE cars Ive had I said they can tow that weight fine cause in my experience they have towed what Corrin wants to tow fine. In no way am I saying a brand new commodore will get out towed by a 30 year old 4AGE... As I pointed out earlier!
People need to read everything before posting!
And yeah Harding, I never realised how underpowered Corrins Celica is. The Celica he owns is considerably more heavy then all the cars Ive owned with a 4AGE, plus the fact corrins a meathead would explain why his is slow as fark
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It makes me laugh when older people think that because they are older they must know more than a younger person on any given topic . Just joking with ya Hawkins, ya know I love you xoxBull wrote:And yeah Harding, I never realised how underpowered Corrins Celica is. The Celica he owns is considerably more heavy then all the cars Ive owned with a 4AGE, plus the fact corrins a meathead would explain why his is slow as fark
I could help explain, the intake keeps splitting away from the throttlebody. After the airbox the previous owner has just clean cut the plastic air channel that channel's clean cool air from behind the headlight . His is probably a lot lighter than mine in all honesty, I just said how much mine weighed it would be somewhere near.
For the record when I had a blown exhaust gasket (sounded like a blimmen tractor!) over 150-200m (was it about that Corrin). My 2litre 3S-FE only had a bonnet length lead over Corrin in his 4A-GE.